Li Ping had a unique was to explain every minute detail about Joy, perhaps it was easy for Li Ping to bond with Joy as both spoke similar language (Cantonese) and cultures.

For the sake of simplicity, I will just narrate the whole interview below as Li Ping explained it to me. By the way, Li Ping keeps strength to identify narcissistic tendencies in herself and has been working consciously for past 3 years – she goes for regular counselling sessions with qualified therapist and has immense knowledge about the subject.

What comes to you if I were to ask you about Joy Kuo?

Pleasant looking, approachable and sincere was the fake image that Joy Kuo “Sells” to the innocent people around her and moreso with her business “Holistic Freedom Lifestyle – Awakening with Joy”

I spoke to many volunteers and they felt bit uncomfortable to touch a subject like Narcissism, how do you feel when I have to say Joy Kuo and Narcissism in same sentence?

Being a Narcissist myself, I can vouch that I used that as an tool to play my games as well, but I must admit that Joy Kuo is a master in these games and I not only enabled her, I was also being recruited as her flying monkey to create distrust among the volunteers in Kosmic Fusion.

When I first knew Joy Kuo in 2013, her tactics was to gain my trust because she wanted to be associated with anyone who is close to Sree Maa Shri Ji and I was targeted by her because she saw the weakness in me, that I like to criticise, gossips and selfish, one who likes to take advantage of kind people around me.

Narcissists have many shades, some try to hide and be malignant whereas others are quite on the face.

Most of the Narcissists will never be satisfied with being an average person, we need to be in limelight, be that special person so to play the games of this great martyr, to gain supply (sympathy).

Joy Kuos’ aim was to be the representative of Kosmic Fusion, so that she can make use of Kosmic Fusion’s platform to spread her fang across Australia and Asian countries.

From many conversations I had with Joy Kuo, she was always brainwashing me into supporting her different ideas into commercialise the healing session as she knows money is also one of my weakness

Yes I heard from many of the volunteers that Joy was always quite ambitious and money was driving factor.

Joy Kuo came out with plans for promotion package, how to recruit people into joining Kosmic Fusion as a practitioner so that she can start charging them. She also manipulated the content of the actual healing, making it more “attractive” to people, so that people will fall into her trap. It was all about money making for Joy Kuo. For example, her marketing package such as buy xyz sessions get 1 session FREE.

Joy knew money was most important thing to people, she used that as a dangling carrot to make people come to her by giving misleading information, giving empty promises that their financial situation will be improved.

Of course Joy Kuo made sure that I will eventually take the blame for all her ideas as she was making use of my position as Sree Maa’s intimate assistance and cornered me into support her ideas when all the while I have not said anything.

From my conversation with other volunteers, I was told that Joy used to recruit flying monkeys quite easly

Joy Kuo is good in putting words into others mouth, she will lead the conversation, then lure her flying monkey into saying or doing what she has planned for, one example I recalled Joy showed me her Holistic Freedom website and asked for my opinion and when I gave some of my feedback, she will “negotiate” and make sure it looks like she “removed” certain content from her website but she cunningly made sure that I was the witness to her other contents.

Eventually when doubts arise, she would put me under the train and claimed I was ok with it. This is how slyly Joy subtly played her games.

It is blessing in disguise that I am a lazy person who has no discipline, so I never put much thoughts into what Joy Kuo has been trying hard to trap me into, such as translating the Kosmic Fusion intellectual properties into Chinese language. I would have been her enabler, accomplice and let her spread her territory to the Chinese market, create more harm to more people.

I have rose tinted glasses when talking about Joy yet can you share how did Joy come across to you?

Looking back at what Joy Kuo has presented herself to others, she was a patience, careful person. She was quick to put herself in good light, there was once out of gossip nature, I asked Joy Kuo how long will it take for both her husband and son to travel to central coast. She was fast to praise her husband and son that they are understanding and supportive of her “spiritual” quest, which they did not mind about the long travelling hours. Joy Kuo never wanted to admit that she has manipulated their love for her to make those sacrifices, because to her it’s her entitlement. It is sad to see that she even lied to her own family members for her own convenience.

So Joy was like a good “user”?

Joy Kuo wanted the best of everything, she wanted to be the devoted wife, mummy to her family as well as the greatest volunteer in Kosmic Fusion, so she lied to everyone. She brainwashed her family into believing that she is very committed to the spiritual work, that she has no time for them and she seized the opportunity to stop working when there was a restructuring happen at work, she opted for the retrenchment fee rather then moving to other department. In her smear campaign, she lied that she was forced to quit her job and that she spent all her money in Kosmic Fusion. It was all a LIE!

Joy Kuo told me that she has spent near to $15K of the money she gotten from her retrenchment to engage a Taiwanese teacher and learn about social media, website, marketing and dragging Kosmic Fusion’s mission in to justify herself. The truth is that she was learning how to run a MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) campaign to recruit people so that she can earn money from it.

But Li Ping, people would say all these are just baseless allegations?

If Joy Kuo wanted to prove her innocent, I will challenge Joy Kuo to show her bank statement of where her bank transaction between late 2014 till end of 2015. I trust the bank statement is something that cannot be manipulated. I am appealing to anyone not to take her stories at face value when she has not proven anything concrete, just empty talks.

I knew about it after Joy Kuo tried to recruit me as a member for her MLM business which she presented her plan, website to me. I am not the only one whom she approached, she has make use of Kosmic Fusion resources and sell her ideas to the volunteers especially the ones in Australia and New Zealand. I am sure those volunteers who has been approached by Joy Kuo can vouch this as well.

I believe in conscience and maybe Joy Kuo will realise it all one day?

Narcissists do not have any sense of remorse and regrets, this applies to Joy Kuo who did not feel that she has wronged anyone when we have been taught by Sree Maa to be morally responsible, to be honest, act with integrity and be authentic. I can see that all Joy Kuo is after the numbers, these are contacts that will give her potential source of income. Joy Kuo would twist information or give vague answers to patronize her clients.

So you believe Joy has scripted a story since leaving your common spiritual movement?

Joy Kuo has been the director, actress for the big script she has written for herself since she leave Kosmic Fusion. Joy Kuo first played the victim, then created a new fake identity for herself of being abused and this great being who has gone against all odds, fighting the “bad” and the heroine who has displayed her strength and came out as the “winner”

Most people who doesn’t know Joy Kuo well, will fall for her sob stories, but after spending some time with her, most people are able to tell from their personal experience if Joy Kuo is a genuine person or a con artist.

You are quite vocal but don’t you think Joy Kuo is helping people?

Joy Kuo is giving the lies that she is an “Awaken” healer who has more than 10 years of healing experience…. all LIES! I would invite anyone to do some research on the internet, you will find there is actual a healer from the States who wrote the book “AWAKENING JOY”, he even attended Oprah talk show . One would ask … Isn’t that a high chance that others will mistaken “Awakening with Joy” with the author of “AWAKENING JOY” ? Is it a coincidence? NO, NO,NO … this is all plan!… Joy Kuo wanted this misunderstand to happen!

Narcissists would LOVE to ride on others to ripe the benefit of their hard work, steal the credits of others! It is free publicity for her!

You mean Joy systematically scripted her revenge on the spiritual movement, used paid media, sponsored podcasts etc and resurrected her spiritual “business”?

This is what Joy Kuo has done, she first used the Dimash music in her YouTube videos, her agenda is to making use of Dimash fan base to surf her YouTube to increase the traffic for her Dimash related videos. As mentioned above, Joy Kuo knew that Money, Love has always been in almost everyone’s mind, she started crystal healing for Love …This is another avenue of games for supplies.

Narcissists will not know how to STOP when there are ready supplies for us… Narcissists will eventually become the greatest con artist, murders, psychopath and abusers to the society…